Clerks II

Clerks II

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Clerks II

Brian O'Halloran, Jason Mewes, Jeff Anderson, Kevin Smith, Rosario Dawson

The continuing tale of Dante and Randal, two slackers who find that life must change now that they are in their thirties, when it's time to grow up and do something more than just sit around, dissect ...( read more  read more... )pop culture and talk about sex.

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  • November 25, 2009
    Ah, the View Askewniverse. Long have I enjoyed the exploits and antics of the various characters inhabiting the world. Chasing Amy remains my favourite chapter; Clerks was a wonderful beginning; Dogma is one of the smarter films I've ever seen; Mallrats is a delight to my comic b...( read more)ook predilections; and Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back, while being the weak link (obviously your mileage may vary, to quote the trope), has MARK HAMILL! And a strong sense of callbacks and continuity.
    So, where does that leave Clerks 2? Well, Clerks 2 might just be one of those uncommon sequels that may just surpass the original in terms of ideas and execution.

    Whether or not you like Clerks or Clerks 2 better depends on where you stand with one of the major themes from each movie. The first movie had a sense of "life sucks, it's a series of downer moments like The Empire Strikes Back" (brought up in the film itself. Kevin Smith looooves referencing Star Wars. If you think Clerks 2 will be free of it, think again. More on that later).
    It brought upon a sense of loathing about your standing in society. That the work you do isn't important, you're just a guy doing something a monkey could do with the proper training (speaking as someone in a job I wouldn't call high profile, I would be better off training a monkey or a ficus plant to do my job when I eventually move on to greener pastures. Most of the people I come across on both sides of the counter can't comprehend simple things even with big honkin' signs and COLOUR CODING! But I digress).
    Although it might be considered a slight spoiler, this is how I see one of the major themes of Clerks 2: change is not always a good thing. Staying low-key does not mean you cannot adapt or suck at living, it may just mean you've found your niche. It's all about what you know and what makes you happy. Sounds corny and seedy but yes indeedy, give me the simple life.

    Anyway, at this point, I should probably get into the plot: our lovable un-dynamic cynical duo return but after a fire destroys their previous locations of employment, they've had to take a job at the local fast food place, Mooby's. Dante (Brian O'Halloran, who I wish was a little more known. Time to go all Jackie Earle Haley/Jeffrey Dean Morgan with him) is wanting more out of life and has achieved that to a degree with a fiancee, Emma (Jennifer Schwalbach Smith, Kevin's wife and perhaps one of the more supportive spouses in the entertainment industry) and a new start with a job being provided by her father. Before he can get there though, he has to go through one last day at Mooby's, which means one last day of keeping Randal (Jeff Anderson, and at this point I'd like to say Randal might be one of my absolute favourite fictional characters in the history of film. And as of posting, I've seen over 800 movies) in check. Randal's just as pissed and bitter as ever, all that's changed is he's got a new location to bitch in and a new whipping boy to make his bitch.
    Speaking of, rounding out the cast as the new additions are Elias (Trevor Fehrman, who appears to have no new work lined up at the moment. Pity, I'd like to see his range), a nerdy, religious young man obsessed with the Transformers franchise; and Becky (Rosario Dawson. And I just love her in this role. Okay, she's one of my favourite actresses but of the films I've seen her in, this is by far her best work. And the down-to-earth look really works here), their manager and Dante's confidant. The addition of Becky is one of the highest points for the movie. She has as much common sense as Dante and shares a lot of his views but she can just as easily slide into the darker side of sexual nature, much like Randal. She's essentially the best of both worlds in one person and a strong female presence. She's neither promiscuous nor prudish.
    And for fans of Jay and Silent Bob, fear not; Jason Mewes plays Jay as a dealer who found religion (bet ya didn't see that coming) and Kevin comes in front of the camera once again for Jay's smarter counterpart.

    While a large part of the story and the characters resonate with me, there are a couple of negatives with the film. One is the music selection. Now, I don't object to the shout-out to The Silence Of The Lambs with Goodbye Horses by Q Lazzarus and Garvey being used but how many times do we need to hear B.J Thomas' Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head in films? Spider-Man 2 uses it, I still haven't determined how effective it was. Forrest Gump has it on the soundtrack, it was heard in The Simpsons once (Duffless was the episode. Or as most people know it, the one where Homer has no deer for a month. Wait, did I say beer or deer? Deer... or the joke about alcohol fueled cars) and quite frankly, let's put an end to it. The biggest offender is ABC by the Jacksons. It becomes a whole big musical number with Jay and Silent Bob getting in on the act and random bystanders breaking into dance. Granted, the whole thing is to set up a big twist and also serves for Becky to teach Dante how to dance for his wedding but come on. Was anything else even considered? What about The Contours Do You Love Me? Not only is the song about a man who is trying to win the love of his life back by showing her he can dance now, it has actual relevance to the story! Well, in a way. Again, I'll keep my mouth shut about the ending. Yeah, I know it's a comedy but considering how Clerks ended (and the original ending planned. Oh Lordy, I am so glad he didn't use that one. Executive meddling saves the day for once!) this may just hit you in the face like a pack of cigarettes (cancer merchant!)
    Now, with all that in mind, some songs get the big thumbs up from me. 1979 from The Smashing Pumpkins (which curiously did not make the soundtrack for the film) and Everywhere by Alanis Morissette (which is also a nice reference to a previous film) to be precise. Still, maybe I just don't want to hear ABC after already having heard it in Billy Madison and not really being a fan of the song.

    Anyway, the really big complaint: the donkey show itself. Yeah, for anyone who's seen the movie or knows Smith's career, this would be the point where you would say "Well, you clearly don't know the man by now" or "PRUDE!" and then throw something at me, possibly a holy bartender (anybody keeping up with the references out there?) but in my defense, besides the shit demon from Dogma, he's never been one for visual gross out humor. Usually, it's just the implication and it's left for our imagination (unless it's mine, where I just phase out until the next joke comes along. Now you know why I consider Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back the weak link) but here, we're treated to a donkey show (don't give me none of that "inter-species erotica" bull. The animal can't consent, therefore it's sick and evil. It's bestiality, pure and simple. There are some sick, sick bastards out there). So, the third act involves a donkey show. I saw this film at the cinema with a friend of mine, I pretty much just tuned it out until I saw Becky and kept phasing out non Becky/Dante parts. On DVD, I just skip through those moments.

    But if the film makes up for it in anything, it's with the pop culture references. Transformers, The Godfather and one of my favourite moments involves a debate about the merits of the Star Wars and Lord Of The Rings franchises (and it has Marshall from Alias in it!) Randal's line is awesome "There's only one Return all right and it ain't Of The King, it's Of The Jedi" and I should note his views are pretty much Kevin's views on the franchise, especially the "three movies about walking" joke. The worst Star Wars gets is a reference to Hayden Christensen's acting but it's clearly Randal's side that it's slanted towards. For the record, I like both franchises but if I had been there, I'd have just said "The Back To The Future trilogy kicks both their asses."

    To reiterate what I said before about themes, Clerks 2 is ultimately about finding what you want in life and sticking to it, even if it's not all big and flashy. Staying put, free of change, does not mean you're not getting older or you're refusing to get older. If anything, stability is a sign of maturity because it shows you're ready to commit. Whether it be in marriage, a job, a hobby, whatever. Sure, change is nice if you can plan ahead enough but don't just get up and change things just because society says you shouldn't become stagnant. Change when it becomes necessary, don't make it necessary to change.

    But anyway, we all get different things from each film. Clerks 2 is extremely influential to me. Kevin, here's one fan hoping it's not too long before you journey back to the View Askewniverse.
  • November 22, 2009
    This one was better than the first one...I love Jason Mewes, especially when he pretends to be the guy from Silence of the Lambs.
  • October 17, 2009
    Proof that after all the mainstream bullshit Kevin Smith has crafted as of late, Silent Bob still knows how to put together a classic when he wants to. Is it better than the original? Not as good? Everybody's got their views on it, but it was wildly entertaining nonetheless, in a...( read more) juvenile way. Plus, having the ultra-hot Rosario Dawson in it helps quite a bit as well as Jason Mewes, who will do pretty much anything you ask him to onscreen.
  • August 14, 2009
    "With no power comes no responsibility."

    A calamity at Dante and Randall's shops sends them looking for new horizons - but they ultimately settle at Mooby's, a fictional Disney-McDonald's-style fast-food empire.

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    Kevin Smith's follow up to his own superb low-budget comedy is a true delight and one of the most satisfying sequels of recent times. Brian O' Halloran and Jeff Anderson are back as Dante and Randal, only this time they've moved on from the convenience store scene and into the fast food world. However, their friendship is at risk, what with Dante all set to leave town and get married to a woman whom he's not even sure he really loves. In fact, maybe he's better off getting together with his boss and close friend Becky (Rosario Dawson)?Clerks II pulls off the feat of being hilariously rude and genuinely sweet in equal measures; Dawson in particular makes for a lovely, refreshing addition to the cast. Jason Mewes and Smith return as slackers Jay and Silent Bob; the former enjoys a hilarious moment parodying a certain scene from The Silence of the Lambs. The profane script is first-rate, often extremely filthy and very, very funny, while an agreeable element of sentiment makes this a particularly upbeat and spirited experience too.
  • July 3, 2009
    I always put my foot in my mouth just a bit when talking about comedy, especially modern comedy. I insist that I have no taste for the modern style of overly-raunchy comedy, and find none of it funny. This isn't strictly true (though I do strictly hate Will Ferrell and Ben Stille...( read more)r, only making exceptions for movies they are in, never for their roles in them--unless they are, perhaps, not intended to be comedic) because I do like Kevin Smith's movies. I freely admit to a strong distaste for Chasing Amy (for reasons that would spoil the movie if you haven't seen it, but that are well known to anyone who brings it up around me) and find both Mallrats and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back leave me shrugging, neither loving nor disliking them, but sort of letting them be reasonably enjoyable. I really like Clerks. and Dogma quite a bit though, so I was happy to go see Clerks II in theatres--obviously, though, this was three years ago. I picked the DVD up about two ago and got around to re-watching it just recently.

    Dante Hicks (Brian O'Halloran) and Randal Graves (Jeff Anderson) are still hanging around Leonardo, NJ ten years after the events of Clerks., but when a fire takes out the QuickStop, they move on to fast food chain Mooby's. Despite ten years passage, the two of them have not changed an awful lot, Dante being insistent on complaining about his life failing to meet the expectations he has of it and Randal turning up his nose at anything and everything, but especially the "normal" life. Jay (Jason Mewes) and Silent Bob (Smith) have taken up the Mooby's as their place to hang out, lean on a wall, sell pot and dance to music. Dante, though, is now engaged to Emma (Jennifer Schwalbach, later Jennifer Schwalbach Smith--Kevin's wife), the ex-prom queen who has decided she is tired of going through the "hot guys" and settled on the "nice guy." There's a bit of friction though, as Dante and Randal's boss is Becky (Rosario Dawson), with whom Dante is clearly pretty close, and who has a pretty clear interest in Dante. Added to the mix, though, is the young, sheltered Elias (Trevor Fehrman), who is less-than-prepared for Dante's willingness to discuss anything, nevermind Randal's willingness to open any topic for discussion. Dante's engagement, though, makes this his last day in New Jersey, which is straining things even further--but doesn't stop the periodic flow of customers that are so familiar to the pair of them, and always a source of derision for Randal.

    This is the right way to do a sequel. Smith makes a script that contains the same characters in a similar environment and a similar sort of life situation, but he tweaks elements of these to both fit the changed characters and to bring something new to the film. But the characters aren't abandoned. Randal and Dante are still themselves, as are Jay and Silent Bob, pop culture references (especially geeky ones) are just as present, as are frank discussions of sex and especially taboo and, uh, unusual subtopics thereof. The fact that Dante and Randal are still themselves does not mean they haven't changed though. They're older, dealing with new things in different ways--and some things in exactly the same ways. It's just the right mix of faithfulness to the original that ties it to it with just the right addition of new material to feel fresh. It also doesn't make the mistake (at least, it's usually a mistake) of looking like it's deliberately trying to "outdo" the original. It certainly does in some respects (the going away present for Dante would be the obvious way in which it does...) but it never feels like it's deliberately reaching for that.

    O'Halloran and Anderson are also improved as actors--in the original they were amateurs, still rough around the edges, though nicely settled into their characters. They're even more settled this time, and it ends up sort of "meta," with actors grown into roles that have grown in and of themselves. Both still have the marks of their roots, but as before it makes them more endearing. A lot of this is, of course, credit to Smith's writing, which is sort of the raunchier version of John Hughes, if you will--I don't mean that as literal or exact comparison, because I hate those comparisons. Still, it's something like that because his characters are always familiar despite their excessiveness. They're endearing even when they're jerks, they're relatable and sympathetic even when they're exasperating. One character can hate another and we can like both, one can treat everyone like dirt and say horrific things (obviously, I mean Randal) and we still like him because Smith and Anderson build real, solid characters into this, but without going too far with the drama and drawing the tone too far outside comedy.

    It's a worthy sequel, something that doesn't happen often, and happens even less often with comedies and even LESS often with small independent ones. It was a risk, but it works out. Is it better than the original? Not really a relevant comparison. They're too different despite their similarities, because they are made so differently and about different things. One is coming into the "real world" and being aimless, one is having been that aimless person and realizing that things aren't just going to change of their own accord, no matter how long you wait. Oh, and it has King Diamond's music in it. I was intensely excited by this in the theatre, though there was no one I saw it with (and few people since) to explain this excitement to. It's awesome, though, to hear his voice coming out of a theatre's sound system, without a doubt.
  • December 17, 2009
    After Jersey Girl bombed, Kevin Smith got back to basics with characters he knows well and the result was the hilarious Clerks II. I laughed a lot watching this movie. Randall and Jay are freakin awesome characters. I thought it was a lot better than the original. It's cruder and...( read more) packs more gags. If you watched the first movie then you'll definitely want to watch this one. I'd love to see another installment.
  • December 13, 2009
    looooves this movie for many odd reasons whoo....moobys
  • December 8, 2009
    Sequels usually suck. This one picks up right where the last one left off. Now, if you want to truly understand it watch Clerks first. Yeah, don't watch them out of order! And Rosario Dawson is hot in this. Jason Mewes (Jay) takes the cace with his dance and Buddy Christ T-S...( read more)hirt. Oh yeah, you might want to watch other movies by Kevin Smith (@ThatKevinSmith) before watching this one cause if not you won't get all of the jokes. That is probably why some people didn't like it or didn't understand everything. Oh and Jason Lee's Cameo is great (which by the way he has cameos in most if not every Kevin Smith movie).
  • December 6, 2009
    who ever that ugly guy is with the fucking acne scars. Get fucked.
  • November 30, 2009
    a sad disapointment to the legendary origional

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